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Surraruthru and spellhoarding (Surraruthru)

Started by Anastasia, February 22, 2017, 02:44:16 PM

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Iron Dragoon

Primary was to become a True Dragon of the Arcane type. T
he secondary was to gain the much-improved spellcasting progression that Arcane/Tome Dragons have.
Tertiary was to retain the abilities of the Faerie Dragon: SLAs and stuff like Water Breathing and Swim Speed type stuff.

Added: Whatever other cool dragon abilities I can rip outta it.
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Anastasia

Okay. While I work on this, what's your build going to look like with racial hit dice taking up one side of it? Roughly since I know CL progression is a factor.
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Iron Dragoon

Um, I think this:
Side 1: Dragon 21/Half-Celestial 4
Side 2: Abjurer 5/Master Abjurer 10/War Weaver 5/Grand Weaver 5
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Anastasia

Okay.

For age category, you use the red dragon scale. This is just for age category and nothing else. Use your dragon racial hit dice and nothing else, including the half celestial levels. That gives you 21 hit dice, which makes you a young adult for age category.

Your size and type do not change.

You gain the natural attacks of a true dragon of your size -1 category (tiny). This is one bite and two claws that deal 1d4+Strength modifier and 1d3+1/2 Strength modifier. These replace any natural weapons from faerie dragon previously. (If you have natural weapons from another source, they aren't affected. Ask me if you aren't sure.)

You gain damage reduction 5/magic. If you have other permanent sources of damage reduction (besides items or the like), say so and we'll combine them.

You gain spell resistance equal to your dragon hit dice + 5. This would currently be 26. If you have better spell resistance from another source, they do not stack. Use whichever is best. (Dragon SR's crummy no matter how you slice it.)

Frightful presence as a true dragon.

The blindsense and keen senses of true dragons.

You gain the alternate form ability of an arcane dragon.

You gain the graceful flight ability of an arcane dragon.

15th level sorcerer spellcasting from your racial hit dice.  This goes up at the exact same rate as 3/4ths BAB and is tied to your racial hit dice. So a 22nd racial hit die will give you 16th level sorcerer casting and so on.

Unless said above, you keep any other faerie dragon abilities. Go ahead and start your rebuild.
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<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Iron Dragoon

Dragons gain Natural Armor by Age Category, what would Surraruthru's be?

I do have DR 10/magic from Half-Celestial.

What age category do I use for Frightful Presence DC?
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<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Iron Dragoon

Surraruthru has Darkvision: 60 ft from Faerie Dragon. Does this stack with the 120 ft from Keen Senses, or does it get replaced?

Would I get 6+intx4 Skill Points at 1st HD of dragon?
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Anastasia

Replaced.

Remember the +4 from houserule, but yes, you get the x4.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Iron Dragoon

#278
Immunities (Ex)
All dragons have immunity to sleep and paralysis effects. Each variety of dragon has immunity to one or two additional forms of attack no matter what its age, as given in its description.

Feats
All dragons have one feat, plus additional feats based on Hit Dice just like any other creature. Dragons favor Alertness, Blind-Fight, Cleave, Flyby Attack, Hover, Improved Initiative, Improved Sunder, Power Attack, Snatch, Weapon Focus (claw or bite), Wingover, and any metamagic feat that is available and useful to sorcerers.

Do I get the additional immunity and feats? If so, what are the restrictions?

Faerie Dragon lists the feats Flyby Attack, Improved Initiative, and Weapon Finesse. If you want me to keep these, can I swap one out? Specifically Weapon Finesse?
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Spells
A dragon knows and casts arcane spells as a sorcerer of the level indicated in its variety description, gaining bonus spells for a high Charisma score. Some dragons can also cast spells from the cleric list or cleric domain lists as arcane spells.

Do I get the Cleric stuffs? I assume not, but just want to check.
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#280
Spell-Like Abilities
A dragon's spell-like abilities depend on its age and variety. It gains the abilities indicated for its age plus all previous ones. Its age category or its sorcerer caster level, whichever is higher, is the caster level for these abilities. The save DC is 10 + dragon's Cha modifier + spell level. All spell-like abilities are usable once per day unless otherwise noted.

List of these or not get them? Faerie Dragon has its own SLAs, so is that what I get?

Does my flight speed change? Faerie Dragon lists 100 ft, but has no progression where as all other dragons get some kind of speed improvement by age category.
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Anastasia

1. Fire.

2. No additional feats, those are just feats they tend to select RAW.

3. Are they bonus feats? If you get them just for being a faerie dragon, then no. Are they feats you chose yourself? If so, yes.

4. No cleric stuff.

5. Yes, you kept the faerie dragon SLAs as requested.

6. 120ft.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Iron Dragoon

#282
Quote from: Anastasia on March 11, 2017, 10:43:12 AM

3. Are they bonus feats? If you get them just for being a faerie dragon, then no. Are they feats you chose yourself? If so, yes.



It doesn't say, so I'm not sure since they don't have a progression chart I can't tell if they're selected as their HD increases feats or things just given to them.

C/P: Feats: Flyby Attack, Improved Initiative, Weapon Finesse

It's listed that way in their stat block.


Quote from: Anastasia on March 11, 2017, 10:43:12 AM
1. Fire.

Does this come with the vulnerability to cold?
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Anastasia

If it lacks a superscript B after the feat, it's not a bonus feat. So those aren't bonus feats, just feats chosen normally.

Yes, part and parcel of the immunity and vice versa for silver and white dragons.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Anastasia

<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?