Players, attention!

[Anastasia]

Okay, Gate's computer blew up so he might be delayed. We'll just roll without him and have him spawn when he's alive again.

[VySaika]

On Jenna's work laptop for just a second here. (It's only here on the weekends, so can't use it regularly, sadly).

Looks like the power source is the problem, no idea how long this will take to fix. I may be gone for a really long time here. >_< More details in the Good Morning thread in the rpgdl forums.

Sorry about this guys.

[Anastasia]

On Jenna's work laptop for just a second here. (It's only here on the weekends, so can't use it regularly, sadly).

Looks like the power source is the problem, no idea how long this will take to fix. I may be gone for a really long time here. >_< More details in the Good Morning thread in the rpgdl forums.

Sorry about this guys.

Okay, thanks for the heads up.

[Dracos]

Ouch.  Good luck, Gate.

[Anastasia]

Alive Merc? You're up.

[Dracos]

*waves weakly at merc* Merc-on-kenobi, you're my only hope~

[Anastasia]

In good news, Gate's ailve. Hopefully he'll be caught up within a week and raring to go.

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<Dracos_at_Work> It feels like there's no sensible option but to rest right now with that.  Merc can try accomplishing things, but I pretty much am likely to die heading down any corridor.
<Dracos_at_Work> post
> My most salient thought is to simply make zero HP lethal and remove the buffer zone. Maybe give some bonus HP to compensate, so that we don't have these disabled istuations. They're not conductive to the dungeon layout.
<Dracos_at_Work> I see nothin' wrong with that.
<Dracos_at_Work> Technically, they'll be more sensible when we have resources to take a hit or whatnot
<Dracos_at_Work> but right now the only response we have to 'we have damage' is ignore it or wait for it to go away at a really slow rate.
<Dracos_at_Work> And the disabled stat removes the ability to ignore it in any sensible fashion.
* Anastasia ods.
> Lemme make a post about it.

Relevant information here. Considering it's two groups and resting could put a group out for much of the dungeon and awhile in IRL time, it's not really viable. I'm thinking of reforming things like this to make resting less essential, thoughts?

[Ebiris]

Play 4th edition!

Or have the natural healing rate changed from days to hours.

Or make the heal skill able to actually recover hit points!

Honestly, this problem will vanish as soon as we open up various classes/feats that allow free/dirt cheap healing, so I'm not in favour of major houseruling to deal with it. Really, it makes sense to practice mercy-killing at this stage so a disabled player can jump in with a fresh avatar.

[Dracos]

I agree this will mostly vanish later on, or at least be a very rare occurence where we have parties without heal options and with disabled characters, but whenever it happens its going to be awkward to lame.  I think a no-recovery system makes 'trying to play conservative' a little dumb (and similarly with rewards on such and looking after each other), but it's fine for gameplay just we should avoid situations that force it to be silly.  Disabled, long term slow poisons, etc.  Things where the correct mechanical answer is "Wait x hours" don't work well in the setup since there's no downtime.  That's no problem, since there's tons of results that just say "you're dead" or it's effectively permanent loss for the course of the character.   We're playing a setup far more akin to Paranoia then it is to Tomb of Horrors since waiting, delaying, etc is unacceptable as an option and respawn on death only really costs player time as on option.

My suggestion?  add 5 points to all base hp and have 0 be instadeath. 

Alternate?  Fudge it.  If a player is going to be in a disabled state, flip a coin.  Heads they have 1 hp, tails they're dead.  Whatever.  Same with anything that's effectively 'you're a burden' type getting knocked out.  "You're unconscious for 2 hours?", "Paralyzed for an hour", etc.

The reason to handle it GM side rather than player is it makes a very sort of 'who cares' attitude to the teamwork if we're pretty much casually cleaning up other players who got injured which can be kinda distasteful "We're working together, working together, worki...oh you got injured?  *facestab*".  Sure, we could be very casual about it, but I think being casual about death in it sort of diminishes the experience.  "We're going through a dungeon of challenges where the penalty for failure is death...um..but we die all the time anyway, we're like lemmings all equipped with explode."  "You just pushed him into that trap? Who cares, he'll respawn in a second and do the same to me."

This kind of situation is exactly what the suggestion of mid-dungeon respawn was trying to avoid, only it ended up slightly worse where we've been completely stalled for a week since I took the hit, without even merc being able to really make a move to continue on since he's saddled with my unconscious and now disabled self and is characterwise not used to/comfortable with the notion of just stabbing the person he was working with a second ago.

[Anastasia]

Yeah, I'll just be fudging it for now. For the rest of the floor, assume that zero HP or long term incapacitation will mean a ticket to the dead list. Let's see how that works.

[Anastasia]

Any signs of Merc?

[Anastasia]

Thanks for posting, Merc.

I probably won't post tonight, really out of it and not feeling right.

[Merc]

S'fine. I just finally remembered to log onto Rat's channel, so I should be easier to poke into posting.

[Anastasia]

Sorry about the delay, I had the strange night and day of hell.

[Merc]

The purple chocobos didn't let you ride them?