NEW GAME IDEAS!

[Anastasia]

I'm kind of shooting myself in the foot here, but when you say stat topic, what do you mean?

Something like this. Merc fancied it up a fair deal.

http://www.soulriders.net/forum/index.php/topic,101838.0.html

[Nephrite]

Oh, like a compendium of stuff. Yeah, I think I could do that.

[Anastasia]

Oh, like a compendium of stuff. Yeah, I think I could do that.

Cool, if you want to. I recommend figuring out what you're going to track ahead of time. Retroactively adding things is a pain.

[Nephrite]

If you could look over the following at your leisure:

http://www.purpleduckgames.com/qbrdii3

The Fatesinger from here seems good, but I don't know if it's too good or not. I also don't know if this was intended as a Pathfinder book or something else.

http://dndtools.eu/classes/seeker-of-the-song/ For when you get home, could you help me with the "Ex Seeker of the Song" part near the bottom?

Ex-Seekers of the Song
Like a member of any other prestige class, a seeker of the song can take levels in other classes after entering the seeker of the song class, but seekers of the song face a special restriction. A seeker of the song who gains a level in any other class after having gained his first seeker level can never again raise her seeker of the song level, though she retains the seeker abilities she has already earned. The path of the seeker demands constant attention and devotion. If a character adopts this prestige class, she must pursue it to the exclusion of all other careers. Once she has turned from the path, she can never return.

My guess is that as long as I continue to level Seeker of the Song as a PrC, even if I level something else on the other side, I'd be okay, but I wanted to clarify.

Also, Bardic Knowledge + Jack of All Trades, do those work together?

[Anastasia]

If you could look over the following at your leisure:

http://www.purpleduckgames.com/qbrdii3

The Fatesinger from here seems good, but I don't know if it's too good or not. I also don't know if this was intended as a Pathfinder book or something else.

No, it's 3.x based. Anyway, it can't be entered until level 9 and we're starting at level 8, so it's not immediately relevant. I lean towards meh on it.

http://dndtools.eu/classes/seeker-of-the-song/ For when you get home, could you help me with the "Ex Seeker of the Song" part near the bottom?

Ex-Seekers of the Song
Like a member of any other prestige class, a seeker of the song can take levels in other classes after entering the seeker of the song class, but seekers of the song face a special restriction. A seeker of the song who gains a level in any other class after having gained his first seeker level can never again raise her seeker of the song level, though she retains the seeker abilities she has already earned. The path of the seeker demands constant attention and devotion. If a character adopts this prestige class, she must pursue it to the exclusion of all other careers. Once she has turned from the path, she can never return.

My guess is that as long as I continue to level Seeker of the Song as a PrC, even if I level something else on the other side, I'd be okay, but I wanted to clarify.

Yeah. You can just ignore that altogether, I usually ignore those restrictions for classes.

Also, Bardic Knowledge + Jack of All Trades, do those work together?

Do you mean Bardic Knack and Jack of All Trades?

[Nephrite]

Yes, Knack.

[Anastasia]

RAW it's a little vague due to the phrasing involved. When you say work together, what do you mean?

[Nephrite]

Does Jack of All Trades allow me to use Bardic Knack to make skillchecks on untrained skills, basically?

EDIT: Also, we're not taking PrCs until our first in-game level, correct?

[Anastasia]

Does Jack of All Trades allow me to use Bardic Knack to make skillchecks on untrained skills, basically?

EDIT: Also, we're not taking PrCs until our first in-game level, correct?

RAW no. RAI arguable. I'll allow it with the provisos it's not going to work on the knowledge skills that will be restricted in chargen. That's due to the amnesia and demiplane stuff.

We'll be starting at level 8, so it's possible to take a PrC beforehand if you qualify. Run it by me first, since some have localized difficulties (Cor ran into this).

[Nephrite]

http://dndtools.eu/feats/complete-adventurer--54/green-ear--1315/

Can I use this to make my bardic music affect both plants AND non-plants at the same time, or do I have to choose one or the other?

[Anastasia]

One or the other. However, if you're only using it to buff Eb's plant guy, I'll allow it to work on both for that. I'd rather have the party work smoothly together than worry about a rules crag there.

[Nephrite]

Okay. If we fight any plant enemies, I'll remember the previous ruling.

[Corwin]

Vetting items and spells

Items
MIC p177, Runestaff of Conjuration
MIC p178, Runestaff of Evocation
SRD, Lesser Rod of Extend Spell
MIC p165, Lesser Rod of Chain Spell
MIC p155, Conduit Rod
MIC p159, Eternal Wand

Spells
SC p178, Ruin Delver's Fortune, http://dndtools.eu/spells/spell-compendium--86/ruin-delvers-fortune--4115/
RotD, Wings of Cover, http://dndtools.eu/spells/races-of-the-dragon--83/wings-of-cover--3100/
RotD, Wings of Flurry, http://dndtools.eu/spells/races-of-the-dragon--83/wings-of-flurry--3101/

[Nephrite]

Question:

Do all bard songs require a standard action per round to maintain, or just the ones that specify they require concentration?

EDIT:

Do we know how much money we're starting with, and are there any items that are off limits besides ones from banned books?

[Corwin]

27k for lvl8