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Started by Anastasia, February 05, 2015, 12:26:44 AM

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Anastasia

From PM with Yuth since I fell asleep early.

<Yuthirin> 1. Archivist spell DCs based on Int, but bonus based on Wis. Can we roll that all into Int?
<Yuthirin> 2. Fiendish Summoning Specialist feat from Planar Handbook. Yes or no?
<Yuthirin> 3. Sorry to spring this on you now. It's been a very unpleasant last few weeks.

Yes, yes and no problem. You'll need to run options from that feat by me ahead of time, preferably with time to look them up.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Yuthirin

Quote from: Anastasia on July 08, 2015, 09:21:11 AM
From PM with Yuth since I fell asleep early.

<Yuthirin> 1. Archivist spell DCs based on Int, but bonus based on Wis. Can we roll that all into Int?
<Yuthirin> 2. Fiendish Summoning Specialist feat from Planar Handbook. Yes or no?
<Yuthirin> 3. Sorry to spring this on you now. It's been a very unpleasant last few weeks.

Yes, yes and no problem. You'll need to run options from that feat by me ahead of time, preferably with time to look them up.

Awesome, thanks. I'll come up with options by next game session. Far too late to use the option right now.
What if they're not stars at all? What if the night sky is full of titanic far-off lidless eyes, staring in all directions across eternity?

Anastasia

Sure. Start hammering them out, tortle. Hurry hurry hurry! Vast tortle production powers, go!
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Yuthirin

What if they're not stars at all? What if the night sky is full of titanic far-off lidless eyes, staring in all directions across eternity?

Anastasia

That's great! I can't wait to see them after work.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Yuthirin

Identify: Oracle Domain (SpC)
Mage Armor: Force Domain (SpC)
Warning Shout: Paladin (SpC)
Winged Watcher: Druid (CSc)
Creeping Cold (DruidSpC)
Mass Snake's Swiftness (DruidSpC)
Primal Instinct (RangerDM)
Haste (TimeSpC)PHB
Restoration (HealerPHB)
Good Hope (CharmSpC)PHB
Summon Giants (Disciple of ThrymFrost)
What if they're not stars at all? What if the night sky is full of titanic far-off lidless eyes, staring in all directions across eternity?

Anastasia

Quote from: Yuthirin on July 10, 2015, 09:44:19 PM
Identify: Oracle Domain (SpC)

Sure.

QuoteMage Armor: Force Domain (SpC)

Okay.

QuoteWarning Shout: Paladin (SpC)

Sure.

QuoteWinged Watcher: Druid (CSc)

Sure.

QuoteCreeping Cold (DruidSpC)

Sure.

QuoteMass Snake's Swiftness (DruidSpC)

Sure.

QuotePrimal Instinct (RangerDM)

Nope! Time to refer to a relevant houserule.

QuoteArchivist: When determining the level of a spell for the sake of Archivist spellcasting, you use the most common source in the following priority: Cleric, druid, paladin, ranger, other. This is to prevent abusing niche sources that give spells at a lower than usual level.

It can be taken from druid, which in that case it's a third level spell.

QuoteHaste (TimeSpC)PHB

Okay.

QuoteRestoration (HealerPHB)

No, as it comes from cleric and cleric has priority. See primal senses.

QuoteGood Hope (CharmSpC)PHB

Sure.

QuoteSummon Giants (Disciple of ThrymFrost)

No. Another relevant houserule about archivists.

QuoteArchivist: Archivists may gain divine spells from base classes only. Prestige classes are not eligible, nor are alternate class features and options, such as divine bard. Yes, Archivist can be abused. Don't.

Also, it's a cleric 8 spell, so it's open then. As a rule of thumb, I'm not going to allow discounting a spell that many levels, doubly so by grabbing it from an obscure source.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Yuthirin

I knew you'd nix Summon Giants. I just wanted to see your reaction. Thanks!
What if they're not stars at all? What if the night sky is full of titanic far-off lidless eyes, staring in all directions across eternity?

Anastasia

Sure. My general thought processes are going to be like this:

Is it a divine spell that appears on a core divine casting class spell list? Yes, barring something unusual.
Is it a spell that appears on a domain? Yes, assuming the domain's one that's not terribly obscure, broken or otherwise out of order.
Is it a divine spell that appears on a non-core divine casting class spell list? Probably. There's not a lot of base classes that cover new divine casting ground, but this is here just in case.
Is it a divine spell from a prestige class, alternate class feature or other non-standard thing? No. That's one of the points I draw the line. Summon giants is one of the biggest examples of how this can be abused.
Is it a spell that's not normally divine, but you come across an example of it being a divine spell? Possibly. Case by case basis.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Yuthirin

Taking Primal Instinct at 3rd level is acceptable. List of all purchases will be up in Loot later today for final approval. Rolls to learn spells begin tomorrow.
What if they're not stars at all? What if the night sky is full of titanic far-off lidless eyes, staring in all directions across eternity?

Yuthirin

So I just realized that I should have gotten into Malconvoker at level 6, not 7. I'll be making the appropriate adjustments to levels.
What if they're not stars at all? What if the night sky is full of titanic far-off lidless eyes, staring in all directions across eternity?

Anastasia

<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Merc

Finally went and posted last three logs, before it gets really out of control like it usually does when they start getting missed.

So we're caught up.
<Cidward> God willing, we'll all meet in Buttquest 2: The Quest for More Butts.

Anastasia

<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Anastasia

So it's time for that question: Another slaad dungeon or back to B3 for awhile?
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?