Random DM nagging 3: NO ESCAPE

[Anastasia]

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The dividing line between B4 and B4's side story.

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Okay, anything after this post should be about the new game.

[Anastasia]

A bunch of old topics are locked. For this game don't worry about them, this is just DM upkeep.

[Anastasia]

Question, what are the best ways to get a spell as an SLA?

From Iddy, pretty sure this is related to this game.

Getting it as a natural SLA from a template, a race or a class feature's the easiest, but most of those are set SLAs. The Archmage PrC has an ability that allows you to convert spells to SLAs, investigate that as well.

[Iron Dragoon]

> !rollchar
<Serith> 1, 2, 4, 1, 3 = 9
<Serith> 4, 1, 5, 4, 3 = 13
<Serith> 6, 5, 6, 5, 2 = 17
<Serith> 3, 5, 4, 1, 6 = 15
<Serith> 4, 1, 5, 6, 6 = 17
<Serith> 6, 5, 2, 3, 2 = 14
<Serith> Iddy's Scores: 17, 17, 15, 14, 13, 9
> !rollchar
<Serith> 6, 1, 5, 5, 3 = 16
<Serith> 1, 1, 6, 2, 2 = 10
<Serith> 6, 1, 1, 5, 6 = 17
<Serith> 2, 2, 1, 5, 1 = 9
<Serith> 3, 3, 6, 3, 1 = 12
<Serith> 5, 5, 2, 4, 5 = 15
<Serith> Iddy's Scores: 17, 16, 15, 12, 10, 9
> Well shit. Guess it's 1.

[Anastasia]

Thanks Iddy.

[Yuthirin]

Do I even need to do a sheet for this?

[Anastasia]

If you're just playing Iddy's familiar, no. You and him would talk that over and figure out how you're doing it, but the stat work would be Iddy's responsibility.

[Yuthirin]

neato

[Anastasia]

We aren't on a tight schedule here, but I would like to see basic outlines in about a week's time. If you get more done then that's even better of course, and if you need more time speak up.

[Iron Dragoon]

Okay, question.

At level 14, my progression looks like this:



   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

Side 1	Side 2
Wizard 1	Factotum 1
Wizard 2	Factotum 2
Wizard 3	Factotum 3
Wizard 4	Factotum 4
Wizard 5	Factotum 5
Wizard 6	Horizon Walker 1
Wizard 7	Horizon Walker 2
Wizard 8	Horizon Walker 3
Wizard 9	Horizon Walker 4
MotUH 1	Factotum 6
MotUH 2	Factotum 7
MotUH 3	Factotum 8
MotUH 4	Factotum 9
MotUH 5	Factotum 10

Now, I know you said not to ultra optimize, but I was trying to figure out if there's a reasonable way to make up the dead caster progression for MotUH 1. I had the idea to do a 1 level dip into a PrC that advances caster progression on side 2, but I'm not sure how the advancement would work. I'd have to take it concurrently with a Wizard Level, so the advancement it gives would be effectively non-existant at the level I took it, but it would still be there on paper.

So my real question is, would that caster progression advancement kick in when I did lose the level from MotUH?  Like this:



   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

Side 1	Side 2
Wizard 1	Factotum 1
Wizard 2	Factotum 2
Wizard 3	Factotum 3
Wizard 4	Factotum 4
Wizard 5	Factotum 5
Wizard 6	Horizon Walker 1
Wizard 7	Horizon Walker 1
Wizard 8	Horizon Walker 2
Wizard 9	Master Specialist 1
MotUH 1	Factotum 6
MotUH 2	Factotum 7
MotUH 3	Factotum 8
MotUH 4	Factotum 9
MotUH 5	Factotum 10

Master Specialist gives +1 advancement to an existing spellcasting class. Normally the solution would be to just take it on side 2 after MotUH finishes to get it back, but I can't get into it until I'm level 9 Wiz due to TK's spell level. If we were doing level 15, I could just take it that level, but I dunno if there's a way to make it back at the 14 levels we're doing.

[Iron Dragoon]

Focus Specialist takes a spell slot from me and gives me 2.
For level 7 spells, I have 1 slot. This reduces me to 0+3 bonus. This is legal/acceptable?

[Anastasia]

Focus Specialist takes a spell slot from me and gives me 2.
For level 7 spells, I have 1 slot. This reduces me to 0+3 bonus. This is legal/acceptable?

Yes.

[Anastasia]

Okay, question.

At level 14, my progression looks like this:



   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

Side 1	Side 2
Wizard 1	Factotum 1
Wizard 2	Factotum 2
Wizard 3	Factotum 3
Wizard 4	Factotum 4
Wizard 5	Factotum 5
Wizard 6	Horizon Walker 1
Wizard 7	Horizon Walker 2
Wizard 8	Horizon Walker 3
Wizard 9	Horizon Walker 4
MotUH 1	Factotum 6
MotUH 2	Factotum 7
MotUH 3	Factotum 8
MotUH 4	Factotum 9
MotUH 5	Factotum 10

Now, I know you said not to ultra optimize, but I was trying to figure out if there's a reasonable way to make up the dead caster progression for MotUH 1. I had the idea to do a 1 level dip into a PrC that advances caster progression on side 2, but I'm not sure how the advancement would work. I'd have to take it concurrently with a Wizard Level, so the advancement it gives would be effectively non-existant at the level I took it, but it would still be there on paper.

So my real question is, would that caster progression advancement kick in when I did lose the level from MotUH?  Like this:



   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

Side 1	Side 2
Wizard 1	Factotum 1
Wizard 2	Factotum 2
Wizard 3	Factotum 3
Wizard 4	Factotum 4
Wizard 5	Factotum 5
Wizard 6	Horizon Walker 1
Wizard 7	Horizon Walker 1
Wizard 8	Horizon Walker 2
Wizard 9	Master Specialist 1
MotUH 1	Factotum 6
MotUH 2	Factotum 7
MotUH 3	Factotum 8
MotUH 4	Factotum 9
MotUH 5	Factotum 10

Master Specialist gives +1 advancement to an existing spellcasting class. Normally the solution would be to just take it on side 2 after MotUH finishes to get it back, but I can't get into it until I'm level 9 Wiz due to TK's spell level. If we were doing level 15, I could just take it that level, but I dunno if there's a way to make it back at the 14 levels we're doing.

It does not. You can't take a double advancement in one level and store one level that would be wasted.

[Iron Dragoon]

Do you have a suggestion on how to make it work to get full casting? I've picked at it and can't get it, but you're way better at it than I am.

[Anastasia]

How are sheets going, y'all? Just a check in.