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Started by Anastasia, April 16, 2006, 04:39:19 PM

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Bean Bandit

QuoteReally? Now that's interesting - want to elaborate on that a little, Mako-chan?

*Shrugs* Out of anyone she could pass the pen or her powers to, Janna seemed likely the most willful and determined enough to make good use of them.
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Anastasia

QuoteJanna was so cool she made me feel twice as bad about every dead youma...

Um, sorry? <_< I'll take that as a compliment, at least?

QuoteI agree that she didn't really steal the show or anything, but she was by far the most human of the former Jade Legionairres - Balder and Nior were both a bit larger than life, and of course remained actual combatants. Janna was a regular girl after she was purified (it helped that we barely even saw her youma form for two seconds, and didn't get the slightest glimpse at her powers - which does make me idly curious as to what they were), which made it far easier to group her in with our 'innocent' friends and family.

It really pleases me to hear that. Being a normal girl was Janna's reason to exist in game. Honestly, these opinions really show that she did exactly what I wanted her to do. That's another point - Nior and Balder were both huge figures. They were like the Senshi - world changers. Janna was just a normal girl, and thus all the more relatable to.

As for the last part? (10,000 Yen Blast, Go!)

QuoteIt was also refreshing to see her consistently bolt for safety at the first sing of trouble.

It's nice to see someone who has no illusions about being a fighter when they aren't?

QuoteI had considered us making use of her family as a hideout on Gaia, although I felt it might have been too dangerous - no telling how loyal they might be to the Agency, and even if they did help us I'd feel bad for putting them at risk - I'd also feel like a bit of a heel to take advantage of their generosity after we put Janna up in that dirty hovel...

Yeah. That was pretty much the entire plot there. It wasn't subtle if you thought about it, but it sure was ripe. Incidentally, Janna doesn't hold it against you girls. As much as she bitched, she understood the situation well. Also, after a little bit, she'd have rather stayed there with Nior. She couldn't quite bring herself to leave him alone. I think she kind of 'got' him a bit, too.

Quote from: AnastasiaTriplets Stuff

While I never really saw the triplets as fanservicey as in your first paragraph (they never got the glowing physical descriptions Rei is so often lavished with), the rest sounds about right. Juli and Kiko were effectively interchangable, while Eliza was a bit more forthright than the other two.

They were fun to play around with, and it was nice to have a few more 'youma survivors'. Having them around probably made things far more pleasant for Janna, at least.[/quote]

Basically on all counts. Not much to say here, they were what they were.
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Anastasia

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Quote from: AnastasiaMiro Stuff

While Miro was a nice guy, and a tremendous help, I almost couldn't stand talking to him. Just his laboured form of speech, even in text form makes me tired and cranky... I kept wishing Hotaru would heal him so we could have a normal conversation!

1. I agree with you completely.

2. I'm glad I at least hit the form of speech out of the park like that?

So I dunno.
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Anastasia

Quote from: Bean Bandit
QuoteReally? Now that's interesting - want to elaborate on that a little, Mako-chan?

*Shrugs* Out of anyone she could pass the pen or her powers to, Janna seemed likely the most willful and determined enough to make good use of them.

Aaah.

Fair enough there entirely. I am curious about one thing - Sailor Nior? Sailor Balder? Sailor Beck? Did those thoughts cross your mind?
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<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Bean Bandit

QuoteFair enough there entirely. I am curious about one thing - Sailor Nior? Sailor Balder? Sailor Beck? Did those thoughts cross your mind?

No.
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Asrana

Janna...

At first? Hotaru didn't work well with her. Hotaru was far, far too self-conscious about being a rich girl who still had it, and Janna threw a curve ball at her in general. Besides that Usagi handled most of her at the start.

Once they hit Gaia, opportunities didn't really increase, but she got more comfortable with Janna, enough to relax.

And then came the ero ero talk...

This is what actually piqued Hotaru's interest. Janna suddenly had depth, Janna knew things, Janna had actual experience, and it was all in something Hotaru didn't have the best knowledge of, yet was interested in.

This gross imbalance of the universe had to be rectified. So Hotaru pushed, porodded, pleaded, fat talked, whatever she could for more, more, more! I honestly don't think she'd ever STOP as long as she could think up a question to be asked.

This kind of put Janna into that 'older friend' status Hotaru honestly doesn't view most of the other senshi with. Not Oneesama, but that person you invite to parties just for the gossip, and because such gossip is fun to chat about.
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Asrana

The triplets! Honestly? See Janna. Hotaru thinks of them almost in a more extreme way than Janna, but they're less engageable about things.

Well, except Eliza. Hotaru actually feels bad for Eliza, having watched Rei set her on fire, and then having tried to cut Eliza's throat. She's a little awkward around her for it, but at the same time honestly wants to make Eliza feel ebtter after that,e ven if she tried to take Hotaru's head off. Eliza and Jannare pretty much the social reasons Hotaru wants to go back to Gaia. She likes talking to the errant youma, and still sort of wants to 'make up' with Eliza.


I'll add Miro in here since it's very minor. Despite having probably been able to work with Miro well...Hotaru simply necer had any opportunity to do so. He was pushed at other people, no one ever really brought him up with her and then she was busy either recovering or being the resident live energy battery. So despite her likely curiousity into his past and the military experiences...really nothing at all.
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Anastasia

Character Entry #29

Ikkuko Tsukino

Source Material(s): SM canon and SM game 1. Duh.

General: Of all the parents, Ikkuko got the most thought put in about her. She'd been a fairly major NPC in SM game 1, and since she had to repeat, I needed to gear her up to be distinctive from Ikkuko-1. In game one, barring some drama, Ikkuko was the perfect supportive, loving mother.

You can see where I'm going with this, can't you, Usa-chan?

Well, considering Usagi's grades and likely temperament, I simply flipped that onto it's head. I looked to the early SM canon for inspiriation, finding it in spades. Ikkuko could be frankly bitchy towards her often underachiving daughter, so I tapped into that for a major facet of her early personality.

Really, I think we ended up with a very canon take on Usagi's mother - sure she's grown a bit and began to change/adapt(Serenity, Reiko and others will probably start showing a bit soon), but that's the fundamental approach.

Notes: Loves her husband dearly. This is a given.

I'm always amused when she really tears into Usagi. The interaction tends to sparkle, and she won't do this to anyone else as a rule. She's all flowers and sunshine when guests are over, after all. Serenity's probably going to play up this side naturally, moreso in regard to Usagi.

Ikkuko has slightly mixed feelings regarding Serenity, but she can't bear to say anything to her. She and Reiko really like each other - they see the path not taken in each other and it interests them. She feels sorry for Kotono after meeting her father - that's kind of a general sentiment, however. She found Rei's grandfather charming.

Ikkuko is probably a better cook that Makoto on paper, purely because of more experience. It's reasonably close, and I think Mako would outdue her wiht a few more years of work. Speaking of, she's always half meant to try and get to know Makoto - her situation inspires a lot of feelings within her.
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Bean Bandit

Hm. You know, suspisciously little is said about how Reiko and Ikkuko interacted with Auntie Fuuko and Uncle Taka. =D Wanna hear more about that!

Also, I would have been interested in interacting with Usagi's mom. Just to see how we get along. >_> Other than that, not much to offer, here.
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Anastasia

Quote from: Bean BanditHm. You know, suspisciously little is said about how Reiko and Ikkuko interacted with Auntie Fuuko and Uncle Taka. =D Wanna hear more about that!

Also, I would have been interested in interacting with Usagi's mom. Just to see how we get along. >_> Other than that, not much to offer, here.

I'll get yours first since it's not too long.

She liked Auntie Fuuko quite a bit - a womanly sort of thing. Can you imagine Ikkuko, Reiko, and Fuuko sitting around, chatting about love lives? It's quite interesting! Uncle Taka? Mmm. Not as much connection there - seems like a nice man, but nothing that innately draws the two together.

Mmm, you should swing by the Tsukino house sometime, the more I think about it.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Anastasia

Quote from: AsranaJanna...

At first? Hotaru didn't work well with her. Hotaru was far, far too self-conscious about being a rich girl who still had it, and Janna threw a curve ball at her in general. Besides that Usagi handled most of her at the start.

Once they hit Gaia, opportunities didn't really increase, but she got more comfortable with Janna, enough to relax.

Agreed. You two never felt like there was a serious connection, nor much to talk about. Eggshell pushing and all that, really. This tended to be an issue with Hotaru and some of the Gaian NPCs.

QuoteAnd then came the ero ero talk...

This is what actually piqued Hotaru's interest. Janna suddenly had depth, Janna knew things, Janna had actual experience, and it was all in something Hotaru didn't have the best knowledge of, yet was interested in.

This gross imbalance of the universe had to be rectified. So Hotaru pushed, porodded, pleaded, fat talked, whatever she could for more, more, more! I honestly don't think she'd ever STOP as long as she could think up a question to be asked.

*Snicker*

Pervtaru! Anyway, that is amusing, even if I really feel bad for poor Janna now. You're going to hound her to death, you know that? But mmm. It's an interesting application of Hotaru's intellectual curiosity springing up.

QuoteThis kind of put Janna into that 'older friend' status Hotaru honestly doesn't view most of the other senshi with. Not Oneesama, but that person you invite to parties just for the gossip, and because such gossip is fun to chat about.

Yeah, Janna is 'that friend', isn't she? Mmmm. Good for her.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Bean Bandit

QuoteShe liked Auntie Fuuko quite a bit - a womanly sort of thing. Can you imagine Ikkuko, Reiko, and Fuuko sitting around, chatting about love lives? It's quite interesting!

It's funny...but I can really see these three bonding. >_> If they were in high school, it'd be almost funny...the stereotypes presented by them actually compliment each other well. The Bad girl, the Class President, and the Sweet and Popular girl.
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Ebiris

Quote from: AnastasiaIkkuko Stuff

OOC, Ikkuko is probably my favourite NPC to interact with. She has a knack for bringing out the worst in Usagi - the ditzy argumentative and tactless girl who provides me with so much amusement. Obviously Usagi and Ikkuko love each other, but it's a long suffering love that withstands the occasional juvenile outburst/unfair ultimatum (depending on who's viewpoint you side with).

It does bug Usagi that Ikkuko is all sweetness and light to everyone else, but it's part of their relationship, and she does slightly enjoy baiting her mother for amusement value - though it's a tricky balancing act not to push her too far.

Still, behind the love and slight fear Usagi has of her mother, she does deeply admire the woman. Before Serenity Ikkuko was Usagi's biggest role model - despite Usagi's own feminist leanings, Ikkuko is a strong willed and confident woman, even if she's a housewife, and Usagi would be quite happy emulating her mother as her life goes on.

Also worth noting that despite your comments about Ikkuko not being that supportive here, she was 100% behind Usagi nabbing Mamoru, right from when she first met him. At least I hope it's support of her daughter, and not a more sinister interest in Mamoru... Regardless, it is nice that on the topic of her love life, Usagi can speak freely with her mother - she might even be understanding of lesbian Usagi if recent events are any indication!

Not that I intend to go there, of course...

It's just nice to know.

I do wonder how things will go with Serenity in future, though. The two appear to have hit it off really well so far, but will it last after a few vocal fights between Ikkuko and Usagi if Serenity speaks up on Usagi's behalf? Serenity's so nice it seems unthinkable, but I almost wonder if she might start breeding resentment in Ikkuko if she gets too close to Usagi. I hope the fact that mother and daughter make up as quickly as they fight will forestall that - things never brood between them enough for it to seem like a wedge can be driven, but you never know what the future holds.

Anyway, in conclusion I once again emphasise how much fun I have with Ikkuko. She's just perfectly played for Usagi to go on uber-dramatic 'I hate you!' speeches without them actually causing real fallout. As the game's gone on, Usagi's gotten a bit better at holding her own when they argue, but Ikkuko still has an undefeated record...

Anastasia

Quote from: AsranaThe triplets! Honestly? See Janna. Hotaru thinks of them almost in a more extreme way than Janna, but they're less engageable about things.

Well, except Eliza. Hotaru actually feels bad for Eliza, having watched Rei set her on fire, and then having tried to cut Eliza's throat. She's a little awkward around her for it, but at the same time honestly wants to make Eliza feel ebtter after that,e ven if she tried to take Hotaru's head off. Eliza and Jannare pretty much the social reasons Hotaru wants to go back to Gaia. She likes talking to the errant youma, and still sort of wants to 'make up' with Eliza.

Pretty much. I won't get into long replies with the triplets since they're very shallow and up front. That's a good motive for wanting to go back, too.


QuoteI'll add Miro in here since it's very minor. Despite having probably been able to work with Miro well...Hotaru simply necer had any opportunity to do so. He was pushed at other people, no one ever really brought him up with her and then she was busy either recovering or being the resident live energy battery. So despite her likely curiousity into his past and the military experiences...really nothing at all.

Yeah.

This one was partly circumstance and partly my fault. I wanted you two to spend some time together, but it never really worked out. My bad.
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<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Anastasia

Quote from: Bean Bandit
QuoteShe liked Auntie Fuuko quite a bit - a womanly sort of thing. Can you imagine Ikkuko, Reiko, and Fuuko sitting around, chatting about love lives? It's quite interesting!

It's funny...but I can really see these three bonding. >_> If they were in high school, it'd be almost funny...the stereotypes presented by them actually compliment each other well. The Bad girl, the Class President, and the Sweet and Popular girl.

That's partly the MO I was operating with there, Mako-chan. Can you imagine Fuuko showing off your special coming home present while Reiko rolls her eyes and Ikkuko blushes?

<Reiko> "Really now," Reiko rolls her eyes, "Maybe I can see it for MAkoto. The girl looks sixteen already! But what about Hotaru - and she'll get into it, mark my words." A little knowing smile there, "I can see her saying, 'Mah, is THAT what it is?'"

<Fuuko> Fuuko smirks, a hand on her hip as she puts the toy down on her lap. "Good for her! A girl has to learn somewhere, and it's better than from her first crush! Besides, that would so ruin all of your nice plans for her college years, wouldn't it?"

<Ikkuko> "Aaah..." Blushing and looking down, "Does a young girl NEED that sort of toy...then again..." Stopping as images of Mamoru and Usagi enter her mind, "Say, could I get that shop name again...just inc ase?"
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?