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Iron Dragoon

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> Rainbow in the Dark should totally be Afina's offical theme song.
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Anastasia

In overdue upkeep, Ilsenine selects Mass Snake's Swiftness and Aura of Vitality as her bonus spells from Yggdrasil.
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Iron Dragoon

#4667
There's a School Mastery ACF for Sorc. Sorc has always been my preferred type of casting. But my build almost requires Wiz for the Abjuaration stuff. Since there already exists a School Mastery ACF for Sorc, would you be open to a Specialist/Master Specialist type deal with Sorc?

Edit:
After having some time as a Wiz now, I've gone back through and re-looked at Wizard ACF and alternate classes. My follow up is I have some ideas for refinement of my build, but I'm not sure how they would work with Specialist/Master Specialist and War Weaver.

First is Impromptu Meta-magic. Replaces familiar with spontaneous application of a meta-magic feat. Right now I have Aligned Spellcaster, but I'm okay with dropping that because of my second thing.

Second is Planar Wizard. It's got level substitutions for 6th, 10th, and 14th, and requires Extraplanar sub-type (I'm entirely unsure if I gain this when going to the Material Plane). This might potentially really hurt me depending on how the math is done, if it's even compatible. Since I have Abjurer 5 and the 1st substitution level is 6th Wiz, it should replace 1st level of Master Specialist, I think. If it does, that means I'm trading a Skill Focus (Spellcraft) and a 3rd level spell slot for Unimpeded Magic, which is a solid trade.
10th level would be 5th level of Master Specialist, trading Expanded Spellbook and a bonus feat (which I don't get since Master Specialist doesn't have it) and the two free spells learned for Planar Spellcasting.
14th level would be 9th level Master Specialist, trading a +1 Caster Level bonus and a 7th level Spell Slot for Enhanced Magic, which I'm unsure if it's a solid trade or not.
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Anastasia

Eb, post for you in the morning, just getting a tad too sleepy to deal with yours tonight.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Anastasia

<IronDragoon> So, as an aside, since Kascha is a Wyrm Wizard, she gets a few bonuses if she works with a dragon. I was wondering if there's space to work there, something like a ritual or something that'll let her get a few bonus points in whatever.

Posting this to answer this evening.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Anastasia

Quote from: Anastasia on October 18, 2016, 01:41:59 PM
<IronDragoon> So, as an aside, since Kascha is a Wyrm Wizard, she gets a few bonuses if she works with a dragon. I was wondering if there's space to work there, something like a ritual or something that'll let her get a few bonus points in whatever.

Posting this to answer this evening.

Well yes, her class features do that. She gets a large bonus to K:A and Spellcraft, plus access to spells not on her class list. That's already getting benefits from dragons.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Anastasia

Quote from: Iron Dragoon on October 16, 2016, 11:52:13 AM
There's a School Mastery ACF for Sorc. Sorc has always been my preferred type of casting. But my build almost requires Wiz for the Abjuaration stuff. Since there already exists a School Mastery ACF for Sorc, would you be open to a Specialist/Master Specialist type deal with Sorc?

RAW you wouldn't qualify for master specialist with that. Mechanically I rather agree, since school mastery is really its own thing rather than proper specialization. An ACF to allow sorcerers school specialization like wizards wouldn't be a mechanical problem, though it's a bit of a thematic stretch. (Wizards gain magic through study and can thus specialize, while sorcerers gain magic naturally rather than choosing it.)

In any case, it's simplest to stick with wizard than stretching sorcerer to fit into master specialist.

QuoteFirst is Impromptu Meta-magic. Replaces familiar with spontaneous application of a meta-magic feat. Right now I have Aligned Spellcaster, but I'm okay with dropping that because of my second thing.

That's fine as long as you don't get up to shenanigans with it. The ability's written so that you can't anyway. Considering it locks you out of other metamagic for the day and has only a few uses, it's probably not much for you unless you only have one metamagic feat anyway.

QuoteSecond is Planar Wizard. It's got level substitutions for 6th, 10th, and 14th, and requires Extraplanar sub-type (I'm entirely unsure if I gain this when going to the Material Plane).

It requires one of four prerequisites, not all of them. You've visited other planes, so you qualify. You don't have the extraplanar subtype on the Prime Material, but it doesn't matter since you fulfill other qualifications.

QuoteThis might potentially really hurt me depending on how the math is done, if it's even compatible. Since I have Abjurer 5 and the 1st substitution level is 6th Wiz, it should replace 1st level of Master Specialist, I think. If it does, that means I'm trading a Skill Focus (Spellcraft) and a 3rd level spell slot for Unimpeded Magic, which is a solid trade.

Substitution levels don't work with prestige classes. You have to take the 6th, 10th or 14th level of wizard to take them. It's not your total character level, it's your level in wizard. You can't graft it onto a prestige class that progresses your wizard spellcasting. If you want the benefits of planar wizard, you need to take sufficient levels in wizard and make the trade.

Related note from houserules:

Quote17. Design note I've been meaning to add: PrCs don't get ACFs or anything like that. Base classes do. This  comes up every now and again and I'd like to have something to point to rather than explain it each time. So here.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Iron Dragoon

Hmm, so is there any real way to get it done without ripping my build apart completely?
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Anastasia

Quote from: Iron Dragoon on October 19, 2016, 03:15:51 PM
Hmm, so is there any real way to get it done without ripping my build apart completely?

To get which of those done?
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Iron Dragoon

Planar wiz. Impromptu you already said is okay. Would I be able to swap some monk levels or something? Or is it just not really worth trying to make happen?
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Anastasia

It would take rebuilding, so let's table it until you're done with the current adventure. We can look then and see.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Anastasia

Getting personal divine attention is incredibly difficult. Aurora is fortunate in that Medi's legacy opens many doors for them and greatly inflates your relative importance in the planes. You often get meetings you wouldn't have a prayer of getting without it, it's worth reinforcing this every so often. Aurora's not typical.

On the flip side, sometimes that doesn't cut it and you need to do it the hard way. In Moore's case, he managed to use a particular epic skill usage to attract Lliira's attention.

Quote80   Impossible performance. In a propserous city, you can earn 60d6 gp/day. You will immediately attract the attention of deities related to performance.

Doing this in the divine realm of a deity who oversees performance and the arts is like sending up a giant signal flare in the middle of the night. It's going to attract attention and get things to happen. They might not be good things depending on the people involved, but you'll get attention. By making DC 80, Moore was able to perform so well that it made Lliira notice him. A new face throwing down that sort of perform check catches her attention and invites a response.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Iron Dragoon

So, with Surraruthru's recent acquisition and use of the Anti-Magic Field Stones, I'm thinking they might be a good idea to toss one or two to the NPC squad leaders for use in combat, or to our scouting/recon teams.

Reason why? If they smash into a magical defense they can't get around, like our recently upgraded defense towers, they can activate, toss, and then render it useless. Is there a wizard they can't deal with and need to buy a round or two of time to escape or plan? AMF stone them, render them useless until they exit the field. Also leaves them vulnerable to our archers. Is there a group of wizards trying to cast a *big* spell? AMF stone them and they lose it. If there's a portion of the battle line that's getting flat out hammered by fireballs or other magic, a couple squad leaders and toss their stones out and form a barrier until they can get reinforcements or one of us PC big guns there to deal with it. Giant summons? Dealt with.

I think it could be a really solid tool for them to use to help control the battle field and increase survival. If there's another Styx Rain type effect, they can throw it down and have a safe(r) haven until we figure out a response.

Input?
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Nephrite

Is there any way to make them into sort of like Anti-Magic grenades? Such that they can be thrown and detonated (by command word?) at range to create areas of anti-magic?

Anastasia

Got a couple of posts up, purely the threads that were quick since I lack time. That'll be it until post dilation.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?