Random DM nagging 2: Endless nagging

[Ebiris]

Pepo wants to have the harp used on him for -2 str / +2 int.

[18:41] <@Moore> roll 1d20+16 Performance
[18:41] <Serith> Moore roll for Serith < 27 > [d20=11]
[18:42] <@Kotono> OOC: Post roll results, including the sickness days.
[18:42] <@Pepo> roll 1d4+1 sickness
[18:42] <Serith> Pepo roll for Serith < 2 > [d4=1]

[Anastasia]

Pepo wants to have the harp used on him for -2 str / +2 int.

[18:41] <@Moore> roll 1d20+16 Performance
[18:41] <Serith> Moore roll for Serith < 27 > [d20=11]
[18:42] <@Kotono> OOC: Post roll results, including the sickness days.
[18:42] <@Pepo> roll 1d4+1 sickness
[18:42] <Serith> Pepo roll for Serith < 2 > [d4=1]

Goes without incident. Pepo gets smarter and less strong, and spends two days in cat hell. Achy, queasiness, vomiting, fever and messy fur that won't stay in place. Altogether not his best two days, but he got the result he wanted.

[Corwin]

I want the harp to adjust -2str/+2cha please.

[Anastasia]

I want the harp to adjust -2str/+2cha please.

Sure. Neph, make the rolls and post.

[Anastasia]

Okay, so check this out. Neph wants to take the Fatesinger prestige class from here: http://www.purpleduckgames.com/qbrdii3

Now it has some issues and needs some tweaks, all of which will require me to do some work on it. This won't be done anytime soon, possibly not before next Monday. For the sake of leveling up, treat Fatesinger as a blank class for now. Since Neph's taking bard on the other side, this covers most everything but whatever class abilities it ends up with.

[Nephrite]

[14:15] <Nephrite> roll 1d6+3 since I doubt the PrCs hit die will be any different, Hatebot
[14:15] * Hatbot --> "Nephrite rolls 1d6+3 since I doubt the PrCs hit die will be any different, Hatebot  and gets 5." [1d6=2]

[Nephrite]

Roll for the Performance for Lucy

[14:06] * Moore is now known as Nephrite
[14:12] <Nephrite> roll 1d20+16 Performance again
[14:13] <Serith> Nephrite roll for Serith < 26 > [d20=10]

[Corwin]

[21:18] <C2> roll 1d4+1 sickness, Hat
[21:18] * +Hatbot --> "C2 rolls 1d4+1 sickness, Hat and gets 3." [1d4=2]

[Ebiris]

+12hp, +1d6 sa, clarity of confusion, upped all known skills, added knowledge local as skill with 5 ranks, darkstalker feat, +22 pp, 2 5th level powers (psionic major creation and psionic true seeing)

[Anastasia]

Fantastic. Lucy has some rather miserable shakes and stomach flu-like symptoms, but she endures it in good time. Now she's even more lovable and perfect, she just knows it.

[Anastasia]

+12hp, +1d6 sa, clarity of confusion, upped all known skills, added knowledge local as skill with 5 ranks, darkstalker feat, +22 pp, 2 5th level powers (psionic major creation and psionic true seeing)

Looks good.

[Corwin]

Fantastic. Lucy has some rather miserable shakes and stomach flu-like symptoms, but she endures it in good time. Now she's even more lovable and perfect, she just knows it.

Just as planned! It's a difficult job but someone has to do it.

[Anastasia]

Fantastic. Lucy has some rather miserable shakes and stomach flu-like symptoms, but she endures it in good time. Now she's even more lovable and perfect, she just knows it.

Just as planned! It's a difficult job but someone has to do it.

If you want it done right, do it yourself?

[Corwin]

[22:55] <C2> Ray of exhaustion and ray of enfeeblement stack, correct?
[22:55] <C2> Since one gives a penalty to str and another reduces str from the status?
[22:55] <C2> And they'd both also stack with a str-sapping poison/disease?
[22:56] <C2> Or really any spell that does str damage, though none come to mind immediately
[22:57] <@Ebiris> Yeah.
[22:57] <@Ebiris> Oh wait...
[22:58] <C2> Hmm?
[22:58] <@Ebiris> Hmm. Both apply penalties, but there's no descriptor like enhancement/morale that you get with bonuses. If you consider them untyped they should stack.
[22:59] <C2> A question for Dune, then!

[Anastasia]

[22:55] <C2> Ray of exhaustion and ray of enfeeblement stack, correct?
[22:55] <C2> Since one gives a penalty to str and another reduces str from the status?
[22:55] <C2> And they'd both also stack with a str-sapping poison/disease?
[22:56] <C2> Or really any spell that does str damage, though none come to mind immediately
[22:57] <@Ebiris> Yeah.
[22:57] <@Ebiris> Oh wait...
[22:58] <C2> Hmm?
[22:58] <@Ebiris> Hmm. Both apply penalties, but there's no descriptor like enhancement/morale that you get with bonuses. If you consider them untyped they should stack.
[22:59] <C2> A question for Dune, then!

As long as the penalties are from different sources and/or causes, they'd stack.

Regarding ability damage/drain and penalties, they stack. However, a combination of penalties and drain/damage won't reduce you below 1 in an ability score unless you have enough damage/drain to do so. In other words, the damage/drain is applied before the penalties. For example, a commoner with Str 10 who suffers 6 points of Strength damage and then a -4 penalty to Strength from a wizard's ray of enfeeblement would have an effective Strength score of 1.

If in doubt, DM judgment comes into play.