The Gossip Board mk 2

[Zephyrus]

Roger.

[Anastasia]

Note for future reference: I'll be adjusting starting gold in the future for new characters, as I'm not handing out a bunch of magic items.

[Anastasia]

Iddy sheet audit.

- What was your previous race? I can't tell offhand.
- Note that with your load you're at medium carrying capacity. That inflicts a +3 max dex cap (irrelevant), a -3 check penalty (which works like armor check penalty) and a -10 to speed. You're only a few pounds over, you may want to drop a bit of crap or do something to alleviate this.
- Okay, you have all your class abilities under feats. Could you sort the feats out from the other abilities?
- Heighten Spell is misspelled. Nitpick mode on.
- Color Spray isn't a bad choice for your SLA, but between outsider good will saves, SR and the fact that it has the mind-affecting descriptor, you're going to be fighting an uphill battle in getting it work. Fair warning.
- Note that the Spell Compendium version of Greater Mage Armor removed the 25 GP material component. You can ditch all the platinum discs.
- As a reminder, all casters are required to have a theme to their spell selection. What's yours? I admit none comes to mind when I look at your spell list. The relevant information is quoted below.

Full casters such as wizards, clerics, druids and sorcerers will face additional restrictions. No druids, first of all. They're a mess and a nature worshiper can be emulated with a cleric in any case. Clerics, wizards and sorcerers will be requires to stick to themes rather than going hog wild with the spell lists. Further, certain traveling magic such as plane shift, teleportation and other magics will be restricted or banned. More information will be provided once we have a forum and group set up. If you have any questions that you need answered about this beforehand, feel free to ask.

[Merc]

More for Iddy:

<Merc> Okay, I found the ACF. Iddy did his spells wrong. The ACF does "grant" an SLA+bonus spells...by trading spells known or spells/day slots.
<Merc> I thought it looked strange that he had so many more spells than Zeph.
<Zeph> I was wondering about that. >_>
<Zeph> Iddy was looking like a damn beast
<Merc> Yeah, all I saw that was being traded was the familiar, and then he was getting waaaay too many bonus ACF stuff.
<Merc> Page 107 of RotD if you want to browse through that ACF, Dune.


<Merc> Also, he doesn't get the spells known from Draconic Heritage, he has to pick up another feat, "Draconic Legacy" to get those bonus spells (Control water (4th level), speak with animals, water breathing). He does however get a save bonus of +2 vs magic sleep, paralysis and electricity.


Edit: Iddy actually gets a +3 save bonus, as he has three draconic feats, even though they're not listed as such: Dragontouched (through Dragonfire Adept), Draconic Heritage (through Dragonblooded Sorcerer), and Draconic Skin. Oddly enough, the first two both give the dragonblooded subtype, so he's double-blooded or something. =p

[Merc]

<Merc> Oh, btw, are you going to use the stacking natural armor rule for dragonfire adept that you created in some other game (possibly B3 but I don't recall)? Iddy seems to also be missing the Scales class feature from DFA which gives +2 natural armor, but normally doesn't stack with Dragon Disciple's natural armor.

Edit: Another comment for Dune possibly houseruling -
Currently Iddy, you have a warlock invocation (Dark One's Own Luck), not a dragonfire adept one. They're technically different from one another and technically not accessible to each other's class.

This Class Chronicles article from Wizards actually creates the feat "Infernal Adept" to allow some crossing over. It's a pretty sucky feat that requires a higher level than you got though and if Dune's houseruling the natural armor thing and doesn't care... *shrugs*

[Yulia]

HEY LISTEN!!!!!

Chole needs to take ranks in [Concentration] if she's going to front line fight, okay?

[Anastasia]

Since I didn't do this last night, session feedback goes here.

Overall I felt this was a decent session. The beginning and end were strong with ample RPing chances. The middle was dominated by the stone giant fight. Now perhaps it was just me, but I felt this fight dragged. In fact, I rather anticipated it would. New PCs, new tactics and new dangers usually results in slower battles. I wanted to get that out of the way first thing, especially if anything required tweaks. (See Yulia's post). Sheet feedback for Chole will come tonight.

[Zephyrus]

I was much better prepared the last time I played a caster! Iddy's Excel sheet actually helped me stay organized quite a bit. I definitely think I'll be using it again should I have to reroll another character anytime soon.

Don't think I made any huge, huge, mistakes on my sheet, but the thing I'm worried about most is my math. I'm definitely expecting to see some problems with my skill point allocation, since I never fail to mess that up somehow.

[Anastasia]

Yeah, you had your spells down pat. I approved of that.

I'll go over your skills when I audit the sheet this evening.

[Anastasia]

Zeph sheet audit, take one. Action!

- Note what level of fighter Chole is. I presume 7.
- Your stats are 20, 17, 17, 14, 14, 14. Your rollchar set was 17, 17, 15, 14, 14, 14. You got +1 from level 4, but I don't see where the other four stat points have come from. Your equipment? For that matter, I don't see a list or description of your equipment anywhere.
- Houserule 3 turns toughness from a flat +3 hp to +1 hp per hit die. So you should have +7 hit points from toughness. This is a net gain of 4 hit points.
- Do you have your hit point rolls handy? I'd like them to check your hit points.
- How exactly do you tally up your armor class?
- On the subject of your math, post how you tallied up saves too.
- What's the damage for your weapon?
- Note where on the body the Lady's Blessing appears.
- You get a total of 8 feats. 1 from being human, 1 from level 1, 3 and 6 and 1 from fighter levels 1, 2, 4 and 6. I only see seven selected, so you're short one. For that matter, note which ones are fighter bonus feats.
- You choose a weapon type/weapon group for weapon focus, not an individual weapon.
- You're using the stormcaster from Stormwrack, right?
- We're using the weapon groups option from the SRD (see houserules). Make sure to select your weapon groups as normal.
- I'm using the assumption that you're at 6th level sorc casting based on the Stormwrack Stormcaster. If I'm wrong disregard this. Anyway, your spells known are correct as are your spells per day. I presume your spell themes are obvious (storm shit)?
- Okay, skill points. Per level you get 4 by houserule, 1 for being human, 2 for your intelligence modifier and 2 for your class. That's 9 SP per level (quadruple at 1st level) for a total of 90 SP at level 7. This assumes your int score is natural and not item boosted. If it is say so since that changes things. Anyhow, you have a total of 79 SP spent. More on this in a bit. At level 7, the most ranks you can have in a skill is 10 ranks. You have 11 ranks in Diplomacy, Intimidate, Knowlege:Arcana and Spellcraft so that's in error. Secondly, Diplomacy and Search aren't class skills for you. You'd need be be buying these at half ranks anyway and this further muddies the skill point calculations. I'm going to sit down with you at some point before next session and settle this out with you. Oh and mind what Yulia said: You'll want some Concentration ranks too.

That's enough for now. Let's clear all this up and see where we're at after this.

[Zephyrus]

Class Side 1   Class Side 2   Hit Die (dXX)   Hit Die Rolled   Roll+CON   BAB
               
Fighter   Sorcerer   d10   10   13   1
Fighter   Sorcerer   d10   3   6   2
Fighter   Sorcerer   d10   9   12   3
Fighter   Sorcerer   d10   7   10   4
Fighter   Sorcerer   d10   10   13   5
Fighter   Sorcerer   d10   10   13   6
Fighter   Stormcaster   d10   3   6   7


HP rolls

[Anastasia]

As you may have seen in chat or in the downtime topic, Yuth has to withdraw from the game come December. We'll phase him out shortly.

[Yuthirin]

Considering my chaotic bend, perhaps I should stay behind on YSGARD?

[Merc]

Hamish decides to give marriage another shot, this time with hot amazon barbarian chick instead of grumpy frumpy wizard girl?

[Yuthirin]

Anything's possible?