Draft 315: Amendment to 310

[tinuviel]

Well, no one jumped in on my discussion thread, so here's what I came up with:

Rule 310-Players shall be amended to read:

1 - Definition
All users subscribed to the Nomic user group (hereby known as "the Group") at the beginning of the game are considered Players for this
Game. Any users in the Group at any given time are considered Players for this Game.

2- Serialization
Current Players shall be assigned Player Numbers sequentially beginning with 0 according the alphabetical order of their usernames.  Serial numbers shall not change, regardless of resignation or inactivity of other players.

3 - Creating New Players
A user must submit a request to join the Group and make a post in a "Waiting List" thread on the Game Discussion sub-forum (the "Public
Forum") to be made a Player of this Game. This fact will be made available in the Group description and in the Waiting List thread. A player
may cancel their request to join at any time by simply posting a message to that effect.

Beginning with, and at any time after the start of the third round, a Player may choose to invite one user on the Waiting List to join the Group, by
clearly posting the invitation in a "Player Invitation" thread. Each Player may only invite one new user per game, unless a unanimous vote is
held allowing all Players to invite one or more additonal users. Such a vote may be called by any Player, through a post in the Waiting List
thread. The vote will be closed and tallied after 24 hours.

4 - Serialization of New Players/Welcome Points
Upon joining the Game, the new Player will be assigned the number of the highest numbered Player plus one. They will then receive the number of points of the lowest scoring player to begin with. These free points shall be known as "welcome points."

5 - Player Permissions
None but Players are entitled to post anything in the Nomic! Forums (hereby known as "the Forum"), other than the Public Forum.
Prospective Players are permitted to post only in the "Waiting List" thread of the Public Forum until such time as they are made Players.

6 - Players Retiring
A Player who wishes to forfeit/retire from the game may do so by posting a message to this effect anywhere. At least 48 hours after this request
is made, the Player will be removed from the Group by those able to do so. At any time during this period, the Player may revoke the request,
and by doing so, remain in the Group and the Game.

7 - Players Rejoining
Players rejoining the game after successfully and completely retiring will be treated exactly as new Players.

8 - Inactive Players
Players who fail to vote on three consecutive proposals without having given prior explanation of their absence will be considered Inactive, and will be incapable of gaining points in any way until their return. Players given Inactive Status in this way will lose their place in the order of
turns and be removed from any and all applicable lists. Inactive players will not be allowed to return as an active player until the completion of the round currently in progress.  At the completion of said round, they may rejoin play, assuming their former position in the order of turns.  

9 - Players On Vacation
Players who post a valid reason for and duration of absence prior to said absence will not be considered Inactive, they will be considered On Vacation, and will be able to accrue points and retain their place without penalty.  Players who are On Vacation are considered Active for official purposes, but will not be penalized for missing their turn or not voting.

[Rye Coal]

Some Suggestions:

1) only Active, non vacationing players may invite new players
2) new players recive the same points as the lowest scoreing active player, I'd hate to start people out at negative 50 or so.

Looks Good, bring on the next round majority voting and fresh blood this is going to get dull with only 4 active players.

[SuperusSophia]

This proposal does really do anything..., but I guess it is good to have done....

[tinuviel]

Some Suggestions:

1) only Active, non vacationing players may invite new players
2) new players recive the same points as the lowest scoreing active player, I'd hate to start people out at negative 50 or so.

Looks Good, bring on the next round majority voting and fresh blood this is going to get dull with only 4 active players.

Ok, so rewrites:

Beginning with, and at any time after the start of the third round, an Active Player who is not On Vacation may choose to invite one user on the Waiting List to join the Group, by clearly posting the invitation in a "Player Invitation" thread.

And then, how about this:
They will then receive the number of points of the lowest scoring player who has a score of a positive integer to begin with. If no players have a positive number of points, the new player will receive 0 points.  These free points shall be known as "welcome points."

Because even active players can have negative scores.  :)  And yes, this is getting dull rather quickly with so few players...

This proposal does really do anything..., but I guess it is good to have done....

Well yeah, I just felt like I needed to fix some things before issues arose.

[Carthrat]

Why 'Positive Integers'? Why not just 'Positive numbers'?

[SuperusSophia]

against the off chance that at some point someone has the square root of -1 points? ;)

[tinuviel]

against the off chance that at some point someone has the square root of -1 points? ;)

Exactly.  Semper paratus, I say.  :D
Really I'm not sure that it matters.  That was just the phrasing that came to mind yesterday.

[SuperusSophia]

Oh, and throw in that when scoring, the fraction is how many positive votes out of all active players no on vacation....

[tinuviel]

Oh, and throw in that when scoring, the fraction is how many positive votes out of all active players no on vacation....

Mmmm...not sure that really has any relevance to this particular rule...

[SuperusSophia]

It involves a change based on inactive players and the voting process.  If inactive players cannot vote, along with players on vacation, there is no need to dock the potential points of people who ARE active.

[tinuviel]

It involves a change based on inactive players and the voting process.  If inactive players cannot vote, along with players on vacation, there is no need to dock the potential points of people who ARE active.

Ah, true.  I shall add this, then:
10 - In regards to scoring
When calculating scores, the fraction of positive votes will be calculated using the number of favourable results divided by the total number of Active, not On Vacation Players.

[Rye Coal]

I thought it was the ratio of approved / total votes cast not approved / total players.

202
(6) Scoring, by subtracting 291 from the ordinal number of the proposal and multiplying the result by the fraction of favorable results it received, rounded to the nearest integer.  

If your going to change this it will actually need to amend Rule 202.

[Rye Coal]

It involves a change based on inactive players and the voting process.  If inactive players cannot vote, along with players on vacation, there is no need to dock the potential points of people who ARE active.

If that is how we are interpreting rule 202, your score is a lot lower!

[SuperusSophia]

hey, if we're going to try and eliminate loopholes, lets get as amny as possible, right?

[tinuviel]

I thought it was the ratio of approved / total votes cast not approved / total players.

202
(6) Scoring, by subtracting 291 from the ordinal number of the proposal and multiplying the result by the fraction of favorable results it received, rounded to the nearest integer.  

If your going to change this it will actually need to amend Rule 202.

Is that how you're scoring it?  Bahhh I'm just not even going to mess with this, my brain is too tired, and I can't find the rule that explains the scoring system.