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Started by Anastasia, August 09, 2005, 12:54:33 PM

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Anastasia

Fun title, eh?

Anyway, from the talk in another room, the subject of what powers and Senshi abilities the girls would like to have came up. I'll be brief - suggest away, from EC to a new SEnshi move to whatever. I won't rehash this long, since we're all aware of the matter being discussed.

Go crazy, and I'm actively looking for ideas and imput here. By all means.
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<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Bean Bandit

Ooh. Seriously?

I can think of several.

1) The ability to actively drain electrical devices, and store the energy. Using it as artillery would be nice, but it would be awesome if I could augment EP or HP with it.

2) This is a bit iffy, but being able to produce a polarized charge. In effect, turning her body's inherent Electricity into a magnetized charge to repel other electricity. (To varying degrees) The uses for this would be forceful hurling of small objects...and self propulsion. >_> With practice, Makoto could surf power lines this  way.

3) EC. Duh. and EP. >_> (Specifically, more.)

4)Human taser. Nuff said. >_>

5) OH! SUBSPACE POCKET! WANT ONE!
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Asrana

Lesse...blurm, wish list kinda deal?

Some range. It feels like I have to be inside spitting distance to do anything without a large enough penalty that I simply won't hit, and everyone can move fast enough to close said distance to melee, or have equal range easily. If I thought I could hit something from on top of a building? Hell yes, get up there with Ami as a spotter and have sniper time! It'd be cool if I could actually make use of the whole strategic support/artillery concept I had in mind thinking about Saturn.

Two words: Silence Wall.

This was really Bean's idea for Saturn, but I'll toss it out: Something similar to Shiki Tohno's power from Tsukihime. Whereby you see the lines along which something can be cut for the most affect. Ask him for a better explanation. >_>;

Also...like to increase the healing powaz while I'm Saturn at least and maybe while Hotaru.

Misuki-Hotaru leaves me so tempted. I want to grow up! At least a little!

An attack that takes multiple rounds to execute, but really IS like magical artillery? I keep getting this image of of Saturn gathering darkness while some weird design etches itself into the pavement, and finally unleashing a stream of black down the street.

Item of Power stats for my glaive.
lt;Kotono>  (Currently looks like a 16-year-old girl):I walk up to the leader and say, "Are you so sure you want our money?" and use my alter self ability to grow a massive bulge in my pants.

Anastasia

A post for each person's replies.

1) The ability to actively drain electrical devices, and store the energy. Using it as artillery would be nice, but it would be awesome if I could augment EP or HP with it.

Hmm.

That's worth considering, sure, and maybe tie in with EC?

2) This is a bit iffy, but being able to produce a polarized charge. In effect, turning her body's inherent Electricity into a magnetized charge to repel other electricity. (To varying degrees) The uses for this would be forceful hurling of small objects...and self propulsion. >_> With practice, Makoto could surf power lines this way.

I like the image, but could you draw up an elaboration?

3) EC. Duh. and EP. >_> (Specifically, more.)

Yes, and we'll see. Tentative at the moment, purely for balancing issues. I'll get back to that one.

4)Human taser. Nuff said. >_>  

<_< EC again, but we'll talk.

5) OH! SUBSPACE POCKET! WANT ONE!

Mmm. Lemme see if the others comment on that one way or another first. Need to work something out.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Anastasia

Some range. It feels like I have to be inside spitting distance to do anything without a large enough penalty that I simply won't hit, and everyone can move fast enough to close said distance to melee, or have equal range easily. If I thought I could hit something from on top of a building? Hell yes, get up there with Ami as a spotter and have sniper time! It'd be cool if I could actually make use of the whole strategic support/artillery concept I had in mind thinking about Saturn.

Probably, yeah. I'll bear that one in mind with your new Senshi attack coming, likely. Or apply it to another ability, if you have an idea?

Two words: Silence Wall.

*Nods* I'll figure out something on that soon enough.

This was really Bean's idea for Saturn, but I'll toss it out: Something similar to Shiki Tohno's power from Tsukihime. Whereby you see the lines along which something can be cut for the most affect. Ask him for a better explanation. >_>;

Mako-chan, you've been asked. Elaborate?

Also...like to increase the healing powaz while I'm Saturn at least and maybe while Hotaru.

Alright, I'll ponder that. (Pending other issues. Hi, Usagi!)

Misuki-Hotaru leaves me so tempted. I want to grow up! At least a little!

Hm. Lemme bat that one around.

An attack that takes multiple rounds to execute, but really IS like magical artillery? I keep getting this image of of Saturn gathering darkness while some weird design etches itself into the pavement, and finally unleashing a stream of black down the street.

If you're interested in that, maybe tie it into some kind of EC if you're interested? Hm. I'm just considering, here, any ideas?

Finally, the Glaive will come with the update.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Ebiris

It's tricky for Usagi, since all her really cool stuff is plot-dependant and comes from the Crystal. And fries her a bit. On that note...

1 - More EP. My gas tank keeps shrinking!

2 - Some sort of magical energy discharge attack from the Moon Staff. Which doesn't permanently decrease any of my stats. (Moon Twilight Flash!)

3 - Resistance to Dark/Evil energy attacks? (and while I'm at it, complete immunity to Good/Holy energy attacks, just in case you ever decide to sic a grudge monster paladin on me)

4 - I remember originally wanting Purity EC. I had several ideas for effects for it, the Mass Rejuve one has already been applied. The resistance one above fits in as well. Moon Restoration also falls within that. A lesser type of Moon Restoration which doesn't cost permanent EP would be nice - dealing with possession rather than full blown youma-fication and maybe other nice stuff like what I did for Miss Kannako.

5 - Sensitivity to evil! I had this at the start, then it just kinda vanished. Ties in with Purity EC, again. I don't want conscious control (rather avoid the constant 'sense out for evil' routine Rei had in the last game), but just having this kind of stuff ping me when it's around.



Regarding the subspace pocket, I'd honestly rather not. It's a nice change of pace having to carry everything than having it at our fingertips like in the last game. Also makes my guardianship of the Crystal it bit more important since I have it on me at all times, not just stuffed into subspace.

Asrana

Mmm...trade the damage boost, or part of it, for a big range boost on the glaive burst as an option? Unsure.

Not being all that familiar with EC (got a quick explanation from Mako) I can only muse...At first I was simply considering the artillery concept, but mm...

Being able to use her destructive powers in a similar way to healing could be interesting. Simply disintegrate a lock, or maybe a whole door?

This is more oddball stuff...more direct energy manipulation could be nice. (Dynamic attack structure, namely. Each one having a different property, or a different limit, and varying cost/effect within that.
lt;Kotono>  (Currently looks like a 16-year-old girl):I walk up to the leader and say, "Are you so sure you want our money?" and use my alter self ability to grow a massive bulge in my pants.

Anastasia

1 - More EP. My gas tank keeps shrinking!

I'm on this one, actually. Poor Usagi's can is smaller and smaller. <_<

2 - Some sort of magical energy discharge attack from the Moon Staff. Which doesn't permanently decrease any of my stats. (Moon Twilight Flash!)

Mmm, yes. Probably, though I have some ideas t here as well.

3 - Resistance to Dark/Evil energy attacks? (and while I'm at it, complete immunity to Good/Holy energy attacks, just in case you ever decide to sic a grudge monster paladin on me)

Yeah to the first. That one was on the burner, actually. To the second? <_<!

4 - I remember originally wanting Purity EC. I had several ideas for effects for it, the Mass Rejuve one has already been applied. The resistance one above fits in as well. Moon Restoration also falls within that. A lesser type of Moon Restoration which doesn't cost permanent EP would be nice - dealing with possession rather than full blown youma-fication and maybe other nice stuff like what I did for Miss Kannako.

I'll mess with that, sure. I'll have to fiddle with that EC, and maybe tie the Mass Rejuv into it.

5 - Sensitivity to evil! I had this at the start, then it just kinda vanished. Ties in with Purity EC, again. I don't want conscious control (rather avoid the constant 'sense out for evil' routine Rei had in the last game), but just having this kind of stuff ping me when it's around.

Yeah. Lemme play with that one a little, too. I have some ideas, but I'll need to finalize them.

Regarding the subspace pocket, I'd honestly rather not. It's a nice change of pace having to carry everything than having it at our fingertips like in the last game. Also makes my guardianship of the Crystal it bit more important since I have it on me at all times, not just stuffed into subspace.

Mmm. That's a nice side effect, though what do the other two girls think?
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Anastasia

Quote from: AsranaMmm...trade the damage boost, or part of it, for a big range boost on the glaive burst as an option? Unsure.

Not being all that familiar with EC (got a quick explanation from Mako) I can only muse...At first I was simply considering the artillery concept, but mm...

Being able to use her destructive powers in a similar way to healing could be interesting. Simply disintegrate a lock, or maybe a whole door?

This is more oddball stuff...more direct energy manipulation could be nice. (Dynamic attack structure, namely. Each one having a different property, or a different limit, and varying cost/effect within that.

If you're going in your own direction, why don't you draw something up within the system? Read the entry of EC in the sourcebook and play around with it.

If any of you girls want to suggest the nuts and bolts of an ability, by all means. I won't say I'll take it perfectly or I may not fiddle as I need to, but I'm open to it.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Asrana

QuoteRegarding the subspace pocket, I'd honestly rather not. It's a nice change of pace having to carry everything than having it at our fingertips like in the last game. Also makes my guardianship of the Crystal it bit more important since I have it on me at all times, not just stuffed into subspace.

Mmm. That's a nice side effect, though what do the other two girls think?

I think yeah, it's annoying, but it's added interesting bits and pieces, like having to detransform to use my communicator that once. >_>;

I'm not sure how much limit there was to them previously, but with the potential of long range radiing in Gaia...they could be seriously useful, and seriously abused. >_>;
lt;Kotono>  (Currently looks like a 16-year-old girl):I walk up to the leader and say, "Are you so sure you want our money?" and use my alter self ability to grow a massive bulge in my pants.

Anastasia

Quote from: Asrana
QuoteRegarding the subspace pocket, I'd honestly rather not. It's a nice change of pace having to carry everything than having it at our fingertips like in the last game. Also makes my guardianship of the Crystal it bit more important since I have it on me at all times, not just stuffed into subspace.

Mmm. That's a nice side effect, though what do the other two girls think?

I think yeah, it's annoying, but it's added interesting bits and pieces, like having to detransform to use my communicator that once. >_>;

I'm not sure how much limit there was to them previously, but with the potential of long range radiing in Gaia...they could be seriously useful, and seriously abused. >_>;

I thought they were a touch abused last game, but also useful.  That said..mmm. I agree with that pretty solidly, so to be honest, I'd want most of the PCs to outright really want them to go there.
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Merc

1) Higher CV would be nice as senshi, if not as civvies.

2) #1 is not so important assuming I start using my Unique attribute (Coordinator) more often, and can level it up. I've used it all of what...2 times? Hotaru could also get it, at that, since she's tactically minded.

3a) EC applications? Humm... Hypothermia, maybe? Make enemies' bodies cooler and cooler, making them sleepy. Probably a bit too powerful at the moment though.

3b) Being able to sense changes in temperature (of environment, bodies, etc) could be an interesting application, applicable also for Rei. Some polygraphs use body temperature changes to measure, so could act as a human lie detector. Dunno about the actual use, baring finding an enemy to capture and interrogate, but might be interesting.

3c) Being able to make a shield of solid ice on the fly might be nice too, I guess, considering how often I seem to get targetted at times. Could also be a senshi ability as opposed to EC. Might be kinda overdone if Hotaru gets Silence Wall for defense also? Then again, with the fact that we have elemental weaknesses/strenghts, might be good to have more shield users also.

4) Like May, some stats on the Mercury Ring would be nice. I know a bit of what it can do right now at least and made a semi-update on it, as well as Shabon Ice Spray.

5) Subspace pockets: would be nice to have, though as mentioned in chat, within limits. It's not something I think we absolutely need though.
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Anastasia

1) Higher CV would be nice as senshi, if not as civvies.

Yeah, you're due. My fault there.


2) #1 is not so important assuming I start using my Unique attribute (Coordinator) more often, and can level it up. I've used it all of what...2 times? Hotaru could also get it, at that, since she's tactically minded.

*Nods* Yeah, another thing to get into.

EC stuff - Yeah, mmm. Lemme think about that, though I like those applications.

As for the Ring, that's coming as well shortly. <_<
<Afina> Imagine a tiny pixie boot stamping on a devil's face.
<Afina> Forever.

<Yuthirin> Afina, giant parasitic rainbow space whale.
<IronDragoon> I mean, why not?

Merc

Hrm...one more thought, considering canon Ami has attacks with "Illusion" and "Mirage" in their names, something along those lines might be interesting, making enemies think there's more of us than there really are, or seeing movement where there within shabon spray fog isn't so their attacks hit nothing or even each other. Could be done with EC by manipulating the bubbles of a shabon spray to make certain areas of the fog seem thicker, like shadows, so they think they can target us. Use of a shabon spray or some sort of fog would be necessary to pull off such a move though.
<Cidward> God willing, we'll all meet in Buttquest 2: The Quest for More Butts.

Bean Bandit

Supplimental.
Quote1) The ability to actively drain electrical devices, and store the energy. Using it as artillery would be nice, but it would be awesome if I could augment EP or HP with it.

2) This is a bit iffy, but being able to produce a polarized charge. In effect, turning her body's inherent Electricity into a magnetized charge to repel other electricity. (To varying degrees) The uses for this would be forceful hurling of small objects...and self propulsion. >_> With practice, Makoto could surf power lines this way.

In addition...Play up the 'Nature' part, as well. Lightning strikes renew the soil, making it more fertile, right? So if Makoto could actualy take electricity and use it to renew plant life, and accelerate it's growth, that's an interesting little 'Urban renewal' trick that might come in handy on Gaia...and will make her feel less bad about training sessions that chew up forest.

And, if we're allowed to get really crazy? Empathy with animals would be nice. Makoto absolutely adores Iori...which is something that took me a little by surprise. She does love her plants, but she's developing a fascination with animals as well.  

Also! More storm powers...Sword related, maybe? Thunder is actually a sound...A sonic attack? A ranged attack, like a 'Wind Cutter' in Disgaea would ROCK. I'd ask for rain, but that would be stepping on Ami's toes. >_>

Quote3) EC. Duh. and EP. >_> (Specifically, more.)

4)Human taser. Nuff said. >_>

Fairly self explanitory.

QuoteThis was really Bean's idea for Saturn, but I'll toss it out: Something similar to Shiki Tohno's power from Tsukihime. Whereby you see the lines along which something can be cut for the most affect. Ask him for a better explanation. >_>;

Shiki's Power is 'Eyes of True Death'. The way Arcuied describes it in the manga is that everything, from the moment of it's creation, has it's destruction predetermined in it's design. Shiki percieves this Destruction as Lines drawn on the object, and when he pushes something into those lines, the object offers no resistance whatsoever. Trace the entire length of those lines, and the object is irrevokably destroyed.

For example, Shiki shattered a hospital bed with a fruit paring knife.

Edit: The above is kind of convoluted. In simpler terms...Shiki's eyes percieve Death...but not as the aging process, but weaknesses in every living thing. The weaknesses are expressed in lines. Shiki cuts those lines, and the object dies.
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