Loot and Artifacts: Gimme!

[Iron Dragoon]

Beastlands Loot

Hunter's Mercy: Heavy mace+3, impact, merciful and frost.
Hunter's Fury: Adamantine short sword+4, animalbane, plantbane and keen.
Spear of Many: Longspear+2. Can split into up to 8 copies of itself, each can be used as a normal longspear+2.
A great deal of gold from the Guardian's cavern.

Does Jarem have any lieutenants that would like any of the weapons? A reward for service, so to speak?

As for the gold, however much it is, split it evenly between everyone who went.

[Anastasia]

A few NPCs have extra stuff they don't need anymore. They're offering it up if anyone in their node or another node could use it.

Antenora

Ring of Protection+5. Not likely to be in any use for long with divine rank going around, but it's available if it would help anyone.

Jessica

Ring of Wishes, 3 wishes left. She hardly needs it now with alter reality and someone may benefit from it far more.

Cresiel

Ring of Protection+5. See above and contingent on his survival vs Torm. I doubt this one will see action but just in case.

Kaja

Kaja has a selection of reserve scimitars. None are epic, but he'd be willing to hand one over if someone needs one. See his sheet for more information.

Xandra

Circlet of Magnificence+6 and Ring of Deflection+7. As long as Moore keeps her a proxy long term and/or she gets DvR0+.

Dolmaya

Reforged: Adamantine bastard sword+6, fiery blast and construct bane. This has sentimental value to her so she'd want it back one day, but a long term loan is possible.

Amaryl

Cauldron's Blast: Longbow+10, force and force generation. 3/day summon 1d4+1 celestial ellder elementals or 1 celestial elemental monolith. Another long term loan, but it's open if someone goes archery.

Elle

Staff of Evocation, 50 charges.

Last call on these if anyone's interested.

[Anastasia]

I'm wondering what Elle did for Oberuth gear-wise as per our agreement:
http://www.soulriders.net/forum/index.php/topic,104389.msg1170240.html#msg1170240

My preference was for her to make all of his gear into artifacts so that it'd always function, and to boost all she can, whether via masterwork upgrades or magical ones. Since the Cauldron is picking up the tab, let me know how much it alters our funds?

I haven't applied those yet, so let me take a look and see.

[Anastasia]

Oberuth no longer needs the following and will put them up to help defray any expenses.

Winged Boots (Constant fly spell, no activation needed): 30,000 gold.

All he really has is a big strength booster, a big con booster and a +6 saves/deflection/natural armor AC item. So he has a lot of room to work with. It's more of an IC consideration that a lot of flashy magic items he's not in love with, and...hm. Maybe set one of those upgraded dusty rose ioun stones into his amulet of health, a +8 one for a base of 320k, or 160k after Elle gets her discount for doing it herself. He'll call it good there, that's a big upgrade for the price and he doesn't want to go in super hard into burning your cash. Anything else is minor/artifacting things that isn't gold intensive.

Also posting his record of the Second Resort for reference and so I can remove it from his sheet.

[spoiler]

The Second Resort

This sword is the long-lost blade of the gnomish God-King. Lost for two millenia, it was recovered by the Crimson Guard and used by Seira Aryn in her mortal adventures. When Seira ascended, the blade passed onto Oberuth, who still owns it.

The Second Resort is a blade that counts as a short sword, long sword, great sword or bastard sword for the wielder. He may use it as any he wishes and it counts as such for feats. No matter how it is used, it has an enchantment bonus of +4 and deals 3d8 points of damage per hit with a critical hit range of 19-20 and a multiplier of x3. In addition, it has the following powers, which may each be used once per day.

Spellruin: On a successful melee strike, the user may elect to destroy 4d6 spell slots or spell charges. The target's highest level spells are lost first. This power has grown in tandem with Oberuth's occult slayer powers.
Smite: On a successful hit you deal an additional 6d8 points of damage. This damage is divine damage and ignores all resistances.
Maim: This power is not active for Oberuth, as the power for it has shifted to spellruin.
Lifetheft: On a successful melee strike, you may elect to heal one half of the damage this strike did to your target.

[Corwin]

Seira is going to cast Shield of Sylica on herself, so -10,000gp for that.
Available Cauldron funds are 577,458.7gp.

And now this!

Oberuth no longer needs the following and will put them up to help defray any expenses.

Winged Boots (Constant fly spell, no activation needed): 30,000 gold.

All he really has is a big strength booster, a big con booster and a +6 saves/deflection/natural armor AC item. So he has a lot of room to work with. It's more of an IC consideration that a lot of flashy magic items he's not in love with, and...hm. Maybe set one of those upgraded dusty rose ioun stones into his amulet of health, a +8 one for a base of 320k, or 160k after Elle gets her discount for doing it herself. He'll call it good there, that's a big upgrade for the price and he doesn't want to go in super hard into burning your cash. Anything else is minor/artifacting things that isn't gold intensive.

So we're talking about 577,458.7gp + 30,000gp - 160,000gp. Also Elle makes all his gear into artifacts and could probably do the masterwork crafting upgrade there to boost the numbers a bit? Maybe make the armor ethereal? Oberuth can burn our cash if he wants more gear, it's fine.

For now, available Cauldron's funds are at 447,458.7gp.

[Anastasia]

Beastlands Loot

Hunter's Mercy: Heavy mace+3, impact, merciful and frost.
Hunter's Fury: Adamantine short sword+4, animalbane, plantbane and keen.
Spear of Many: Longspear+2. Can split into up to 8 copies of itself, each can be used as a normal longspear+2.
A great deal of gold from the Guardian's cavern.

Does Jarem have any lieutenants that would like any of the weapons? A reward for service, so to speak?

As for the gold, however much it is, split it evenly between everyone who went.

Sure.

Jarem'll pass on that for now.It's useful, but he knows the group is cash strapped so there will be other chances.

779920 total all sold, go ahead and split up shares.

[Iron Dragoon]

Since he's passing on them, we'll keep them as a general armory/backup dealio.

Gold: Split 6 ways is... 129,986.66 (repeating) each.

[Iron Dragoon]

Purchasing a Monk's Belt at 13k and a hand wrap version of the Necklace of Natural Attacks +6 for 72k*1.5=108k, total is 121k

Alyssa's new money total is: 8,986.66

[Anastasia]

Seira is going to cast Shield of Sylica on herself, so -10,000gp for that.
Available Cauldron funds are 577,458.7gp.

And now this!

Oberuth no longer needs the following and will put them up to help defray any expenses.

Winged Boots (Constant fly spell, no activation needed): 30,000 gold.

All he really has is a big strength booster, a big con booster and a +6 saves/deflection/natural armor AC item. So he has a lot of room to work with. It's more of an IC consideration that a lot of flashy magic items he's not in love with, and...hm. Maybe set one of those upgraded dusty rose ioun stones into his amulet of health, a +8 one for a base of 320k, or 160k after Elle gets her discount for doing it herself. He'll call it good there, that's a big upgrade for the price and he doesn't want to go in super hard into burning your cash. Anything else is minor/artifacting things that isn't gold intensive.

So we're talking about 577,458.7gp + 30,000gp - 160,000gp. Also Elle makes all his gear into artifacts and could probably do the masterwork crafting upgrade there to boost the numbers a bit? Maybe make the armor ethereal? Oberuth can burn our cash if he wants more gear, it's fine.

For now, available Cauldron's funds are at 447,458.7gp.

He's pretty set, his gear's already taken care of on that front I believe.

[Corwin]

Seira wants to boost the Hope Diamond with Pearl of Power VIII and IX.
Since it's a convenient name for a collection of slotless items, I'm just buying each pearl separately.

To return to the question of how divine crafting works, how much would it cost?

Mortal Elle wants to make them, so it's half price since she has the relevant crafting feat. Thus, 32,000gp/64,000gp for the lvl8 pearl, and 40,500gp/81,000gp for the lvl9 pearl.

What about DvR1 Elle? DvR11 Elle?

Divine Rank   Maximum Market Price
1-5   4,500 gold
6-10   30,000 gold
11-15   200,000 gold (any non-epic item)

If a deity has the item creation feat pertaining to the item she wishes to create, the cost (in gold) and creation times are halved. If she has the Craft Artifact salient divine ability, all item creation costs are halved. These discounts do not stack with one another.

Does Elle get the price down to 16,000gp/64,000gp for the lvl8 pearl if she has the relevant crafting feat and uses Create Items? Does she get the price down to 16,000gp/64,000gp for the lvl8 pearl if she has the relevant crafting feat, uses Create Items and the item's maximum market price falls under the divine rank listed in the accompanying table?

If the prices are unchanged, what purpose does the Create Items exist for? If it's to allow deities without the relevant crafting feats from making stuff, why does it explicitely note the second quote about the deity possessing the relevant item creation feat?

[Anastasia]

Short version:

Mortal without Item Creation feat: Cannot create item.
Mortal with Item Creation feat: Can create item at half market price.
Deity without Item Creation feat: Can create item and uses market price.
Deity with Item Creation feat or Craft Artifact: Can create item and uses half market price.

A mortal needs the Item Creation feat to make anything. They follow all the normal rules, so if they don't have the relevant Item Creation feat, they can't make things.

Deities have a backdoor into it. They can create things related to their portfolio without the relevant item creation feats. Sune doesn't need Craft Wondrous Item to make a cloak of charisma, for example. Their limit is the market price of the item when they do it this way, or alternately, if they have the feats to do so, they can do it the mortal way at half price. A deity with the relevant item creation feat or Craft Artifact halves the price of the item for the sake of divine creation. In other words, they'd have a practical cap of 9k if they were a demigod, 60k if they were a lesser deity and so on because they halve the costs.

What you have to understand is that these are two different systems that do the same thing. Deities get special dispensation to create magical items independent of the normal rules of magic item creation. However, if they have the training to make them normally, it gets easier for them.

So Elle can still use Craft Wondrous Item to make magic items as normal for her, or she could make a wondrous item through her deific abilities. Obviously she'd usually use the feat for those. However, Elle lacks Brew Potion so she can't normally brew potions. However, she can create them through deific means up to her price cap as a demigoddess. What's more, thanks to Craft Artifact, she gets the discount as if she had Brew Potion.

In practice what this is meant to do is to make sure any deity can create relevant items for their faith and portfolio, without making a bunch of item creation feats mandatory. However, those feats do provide an extra benefit for the deity if they have it. 

Flavorwise, the creation of a magical item for normal vs deific means is different.

Example 1: Sylvie decides she wants to create wondrous items today. She takes Craft Wondrous Item as her floating feat. She makes a circlet of intelligence+2 through magic and forging it just so, then combining the ingredients and rituals together in just the right way. It's completed and her work is done.

Example 2: Sylvie decides she wants to create wondrous items today. She needs a circlet of intelligence+2, so she focuses her divine will and forges the circlet. Rather than the careful methods of item creation that a moral might use, a deity's will and power are called on. She focuses them together and ultimately the item is created with it's purpose set to aid her portfolio and faith.  It's completed and her work is done.

[Iron Dragoon]

Deities have a backdoor into it. They can create things related to their portfolio without the relevant item creation feats. Sune doesn't need Craft Wondrous Item to make a cloak of charisma, for example. Their limit is the market price of the item when they do it this way, or alternately, if they have the feats to do so, they can do it the mortal way at half price. A deity with the relevant item creation feat or Craft Artifact halves the price of the item for the sake of divine creation. In other words, they'd have a practical cap of 9k if they were a demigod, 60k if they were a lesser deity and so on because they halve the costs.

So what does this mean for someone like Alyssa who has Portfolios for things only vaguely connected to items, but a crafting Domain (forging in this case)? And what are the limits of "forging?" Technically, everything from jewelry to armor to nails and pots and pans to door hinges are made by blacksmiths, so there's not really any built in rails for it.

[Anastasia]

Do me a favor and paste your portfolio and domains real quick?

[Iron Dragoon]

Do me a favor and paste your portfolio and domains real quick?

Portfolio: Knowledge, Exploration, Potential
Domains: Magic, Knowledge, Travel, Forge

[Anastasia]

Basically a magic item related to knowledge, exploration or personal potential.

An example of the first may be an item that grants a bonus to knowledge checks or boosts something like bardic lore. An example of the second may be an item that boosts a Knowledge(Geography) check, an item that increases movement speed, an item that grants some form of teleportation or anything like that. The last would likely best manifest as stat boosting items to increase someone's potential and help them live up to it. You can apply it a few ways and some of is is thinking out how magical items would relate to your portfolio.

For example, Antenora can make scrolls of atonement on demand and these fit her portfolio. So would a scroll of consecrate. For say Jarem assuming he goes war domain, a potion of heroism would be something that would hit his portfolio dead on.